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  • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

    +1 with Sibun Sir
    Blue Zee is awesome.

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    • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

      Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
      Just because you were lucky should never mean, you'll always be! Anyone for that matter.

      Because the tire is tube type, it doesn't have hard sidewalls like tube less tires. In the event of going over a sharp object, one or both things can happen:
      1. Rapid deflation of the tire leading to deformation OR/AND
      2. The tire slipping out due to deformed shape.

      P.S - I hope you know that rims are different for TT and TL tires. Use a TT tire without a tube to retain/contain air on a TL rim and you're knocking them Pearly Gates!
      I know they are different. I want to know what difference does it make when you use a TT tire on a TL Rim and if the tire gets punctured.. and same using a TT tire as TL..

      I have faced the situation where I was riding the bike at nearly 70s on highways and the tire got punctured. The tire was intact with the rim and didn't come out like you said. I wouldn't say lucky situation, instead I would say the tire can be used as TL.. My friend uses the Q as TL and he has faced the same situation on highways like 3 times and the tire was intact with the rim and never came out..

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      Originally posted by sibun View Post
      Aha! after a lot of time seeing a Blue ZMR.

      I do not know why Hero discontinues the blue colors always. I loved the Blue ZMA, ZMR, extreme, splendor.

      I think the Blue ZMR always looks fantastic.

      And riding bike to home is always a special feeling to all. By the way whats the distance.

      Although most of all here have cars but bike trips are what we always long and cherish.
      I actually wanted the blue ZMR.. but too bad it was not stocked and they said it is not in production any more.. I was like in 4 months of introduction, why would they stop production of blue color.. Upset me had to satisfy myself saying Black goes well with any color outfit I wear
      Last edited by rreneav1987; 06-06-2015, 11:25 AM.
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      Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
      P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
      Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
      ZMR - 2010 to Forever
      RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
      Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
      RayZ - 2015 til now
      Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


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      • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

        If using TT as TL was as safe as how you guys claim it to be, then why dont companies market tt as tl and capture more customers? Why segregate tt and tl then?
        tl has hard side walls. tl doesn't. For a reason. And saying things like "did not slip till now, so it is safe" blah blah is just plain dumbness @reneav! Its just happening once that matters. So, going by your logics, a person who has not had a crash should not wear a helmet or any guards. Cause it is safe and "proved and tested by others like him" like how someone else mentioned here!

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        • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

          Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post
          If using TT as TL was as safe as how you guys claim it to be, then why dont companies market tt as tl and capture more customers? Why segregate tt and tl then?
          tl has hard side walls. tl doesn't. For a reason. And saying things like "did not slip till now, so it is safe" blah blah is just plain dumbness @reneav! Its just happening once that matters. So, going by your logics, a person who has not had a crash should not wear a helmet or any guards. Cause it is safe and "proved and tested by others like him" like how someone else mentioned here![emoji14]

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          Like someone stated !! That's me [emoji14]

          I'm not saying it's safe but sometimes you do things which you're not supposed to do and if you find it convenient to you, you use it. I just said, I used based on recommendations and I was happy. Fortunately or unfortunately Michelin doesn't import Sirac anymore, so nobody can even try it. My point was specific to Michelin Sirac , not even Sirac Street !! To top it, I'm not recommending it [emoji12]

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          • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

            Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
            I know they are different. I want to know what difference does it make when you use a TT tire on a TL Rim and if the tire gets punctured.. and same using a TT tire as TL..

            I have faced the situation where I was riding the bike at nearly 70s on highways and the tire got punctured. The tire was intact with the rim and didn't come out like you said. I wouldn't say lucky situation, instead I would say the tire can be used as TL.. My friend uses the Q as TL and he has faced the same situation on highways like 3 times and the tire was intact with the rim and never came out..
            All I can say is make hay while the sun shines and do remember me if god forbid it sets on you.
            Agree totally with Abhi above!
            Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
            Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

            Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
            Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
            ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
            P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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            • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

              Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post
              If using TT as TL was as safe as how you guys claim it to be, then why dont companies market tt as tl and capture more customers? Why segregate tt and tl then?
              tl has hard side walls. tl doesn't. For a reason. And saying things like "did not slip till now, so it is safe" blah blah is just plain dumbness @reneav! Its just happening once that matters. So, going by your logics, a person who has not had a crash should not wear a helmet or any guards. Cause it is safe and "proved and tested by others like him" like how someone else mentioned here!

              Sent from my C5502 using xBhp Connect mobile app
              You don't understand what my question is.. I asked DS to explain what difference does it make.. I need an elaboration.. even if you use a Tube Type Tire with Tube in it, the tire is going to come off the rim..

              and for your information, I am not claiming it is safe.. I have seen the difference between the side walls of TT tire and TL tire.. I chose it after comparing it with the TL tire.. We are not proving anything here.. Again, this is your assumption.. I never recommended anyone to use it as TL nor will I..

              let that be part of my dumbness and if I had to crash it is just my day.. It could be with a tire burst of a TL tire as well.. we can't control our fate, can we?

              P.S. - I still didn't get an answer to my question..

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              Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
              All I can say is make hay while the sun shines and do remember me if god forbid it sets on you.
              Agree totally with Abhi above!
              I hope you did read my previous post where I mentioned I will be going for the same tire as you are using on your bike now.. which means, I am not going to use a TT as TL any more..
              Splendor - 2k to 2006
              Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
              P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
              Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
              ZMR - 2010 to Forever
              RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
              Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
              RayZ - 2015 til now
              Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


              Delhi to Narkanda
              Delhi to Coimbatore
              Delhi to Nepal

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              • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                You don't understand what my question is.. I asked DS to explain what difference does it make.. I need an elaboration.. even if you use a Tube Type Tire with Tube in it, the tire is going to come off the rim..
                You're right. TT with tube or without it has good chances of coming out of a TL rim. One need not have a puncture for it to happen either.
                I never knew that ZMA v1 has a different rim than ZMR. They only look same but ZMA had normal rims whereas ZMR has dedicated TL rims meaning a TT tire is a no no.
                I came to know of it 2 weeks before Homerun. Changed back to TL and I have peace of mind now.
                Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                  Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                  You don't understand what my question is.. I asked DS to explain what difference does it make.. I need an elaboration.. even if you use a Tube Type Tire with Tube in it, the tire is going to come off the rim..

                  and for your information, I am not claiming it is safe.. I have seen the difference between the side walls of TT tire and TL tire.. I chose it after comparing it with the TL tire.. We are not proving anything here.. Again, this is your assumption.. I never recommended anyone to use it as TL nor will I..

                  let that be part of my dumbness and if I had to crash it is just my day.. It could be with a tire burst of a TL tire as well.. we can't control our fate, can we?

                  P.S. - I still didn't get an answer to my question..

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                  I hope you did read my previous post where I mentioned I will be going for the same tire as you are using on your bike now.. which means, I am not going to use a TT as TL any more..
                  My reply was never intended to answer your question as it was directed to DS! It was only to point out that there's a reason why tires are segregated and saying things like "never had issues till now" was not a valid statement. That's it! So who's the one making assumptions now dawg??!!
                  Btw, lemme know which tyre you choose and the cost. And while you're at it, check if genuine pirelli is available in the market!

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                  ZMR- PGMFI re-defined

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                  • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                    [MENTION=53321]abhi7013[/MENTION] Bro saw your post in the G2G thread about Bimal Motors near GKVK.
                    Is the service good in this SVC.

                    Looking for a decent SVC. My bike needs a proper service.

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                    • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                      Originally posted by VIJAY BHUYAN88 View Post
                      [MENTION=53321]abhi7013[/MENTION] Bro saw your post in the G2G thread about Bimal Motors near GKVK.
                      Is the service good in this SVC.

                      Looking for a decent SVC. My bike needs a proper service.

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                      I have not serviced my bike but have seen a friend's bike being serviced. Mechs are cooperative, they explain everything in detail and may even allow you to see them service.
                      Technically too, this service has everything!

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                      • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                        Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post
                        I have not serviced my bike but have seen a friend's bike being serviced. Mechs are cooperative, they explain everything in detail and may even allow you to see them service.
                        Technically too, this service has everything!

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                        Thank you for the update Bro.
                        Will visit this SVC next weekend.

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                        • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                          Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                          whereas ZMR has dedicated TL rims meaning a TT tire is a no no.
                          I came to know of it 2 weeks before Homerun. Changed back to TL and I have peace of mind now.
                          exactly what I was trying to say.. so using a Tube inside the Tube Type Tire and using it as TL is one and the same thing.. The tire is going to come off either way.. but the side walls on this tire is pretty strong as compared to other tires and that is the only reason I took the risk and now that I have completed 25K+ on it, It is time I change my tire and I am not going to use a TT as TL.. as suggested by you, I will look out for the Q in TL and get it fitted or will go with CEAT and see what tire they have...
                          Splendor - 2k to 2006
                          Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
                          P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
                          Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
                          ZMR - 2010 to Forever
                          RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
                          Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
                          RayZ - 2015 til now
                          Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


                          Delhi to Narkanda
                          Delhi to Coimbatore
                          Delhi to Nepal

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                          • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                            Hi Everyone,


                            I have a few questions,

                            1: What is the tappets setting for ZMR? And whats the interval for adjusting?

                            2: Does a loose chain impact pickup speed? What is the ideal chain slack for long distance touring?

                            3: My bike's visor vibrates at slow speeds, is this normal? I have changed the bedding bush set too.

                            4: How does one adjust the RPM of the ZMR? The idle RPM on my bike is 1.3K/1.2K when my bike is started.

                            5: I recently swapped my 5yr old depleting stock battery with an EXIDE one(Forgot the model) 48months warranty. How many years can i expect it to run?

                            Calling all the experts to share their thoughts and opinions.

                            TIA
                            Kinetic Honda ZX(2001)
                            Hero Honda CD100(1997)
                            TVS-Suzuki Shogun CAT(1998) Sold :(
                            TVS Scooty ES(2001)
                            Hero Honda Karizma ZMR(2010)
                            RX135 4S(2000)
                            RX135 5S(2000)
                            IND-SUZUKI AX100(1985)
                            LML-VESPA NV(1990) Sold
                            TVS-Suzuki Shogun(1994)

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                            • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                              Originally posted by Akkiben View Post
                              Hi Everyone,


                              I have a few questions,

                              1: What is the tappets setting for ZMR? And whats the interval for adjusting?

                              2: Does a loose chain impact pickup speed? What is the ideal chain slack for long distance touring?

                              3: My bike's visor vibrates at slow speeds, is this normal? I have changed the bedding bush set too.

                              4: How does one adjust the RPM of the ZMR? The idle RPM on my bike is 1.3K/1.2K when my bike is started.

                              5: I recently swapped my 5yr old depleting stock battery with an EXIDE one(Forgot the model) 48months warranty. How many years can i expect it to run?

                              Calling all the experts to share their thoughts and opinions.

                              TIA
                              First I thought to let the experts answer it, but since the queries are general in nature, couldn't resist myself from replying!
                              Answers serialwise:
                              1. Tappet gap is 0.1 mm for both the valves. It's better to get it done from the SVC since they have proper tools & experience. There is no hard & fast rule regarding the time interval for tappet adjustment. Basically whenever someone finds problems/issues due to improper tappet gap, it needs to be adjusted.

                              2. The chain slack needs to be maintained RELIGIOUSLY, both overtight & loose chain will result in negative impact on the engine and sprockets. The company recommended slack is the ideal measure, for all kinds of city/highway usage.

                              3. I am not sure about it, but I think the fairing AND/OR the visor is not properly installed. The fairing needs to be mounted perfectly. Maybe the rubber pieces between the fairing plugs and the chassis are missing. First try tightening the visor screws, but don't apply too much force. The screws need to be firmly tight, but not ridiculously tight.

                              4. AFAIK there is no way to adjust the idle rpm in a ZMR. There is no setting/tweak to adjust the idle, the PGM-FI maintains the idle perfectly well. Your idle of 1.3/1.2 K matches with all other ZMR's. No need to worry about it, it will come to around 1.1 once the engine heats up.

                              5. If the stock one lasted 4 years, I would guess the newer one won't last beyond 3.5/4 years under any circumstances. BTW my stock battery is still going on after 5 years, 22000 kms (only) riding. It works well under load test, I can't find an excuse to change it. I wish to put in Amaron 9A battery ASAP.




                              [MENTION=32286]psr[/MENTION], [MENTION=41586]Divya Sharan[/MENTION]

                              I had removed the snorkel 6 months back during winter. Gradually I noticed reduced low end torque, and I put it back in its place, maybe it's not fitted as snug as company settings. Since the beginning of peak summer, my bike is knocking at low speeds and low rpm's, around 2.5 k while accelerating in 1/2/3rd gear. It is getting irritating now. I am not sure whether the snorkel played any role. BTW it's too freaking hot nowadays here in Rajasthan & the air is too dry and hot. Could that be the reason, since I notice such knocking only with a pillion during the daytime, not at night.
                              Please suggest troubleshooting options for such knocking.

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                              • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                                Thanks for replying Arya809.

                                I intend to adjust the valve clearance myself coz the SVC mechs are way too shoddy and finding a reliable honest private mech in Bengaluru is next to impossible.
                                I was able to adjust the tappets to perfection on my CD100, but this is something that i have never tried, and it does not feature in the owner's manual either.
                                I have a tappet wrench suitable for CD100, along with a feeler gauge. I guess i would be needing a 10mm ring spanner to hold the lock nut and some wits to take apart the petrol tank from frame carefully to start working on em tappets.

                                Can the experts who have tried this earlier throw some light...
                                [MENTION=41586]Divya Sharan[/MENTION] : Could you suggest a good mech in Bengaluru who does a honest job.

                                TIA
                                Kinetic Honda ZX(2001)
                                Hero Honda CD100(1997)
                                TVS-Suzuki Shogun CAT(1998) Sold :(
                                TVS Scooty ES(2001)
                                Hero Honda Karizma ZMR(2010)
                                RX135 4S(2000)
                                RX135 5S(2000)
                                IND-SUZUKI AX100(1985)
                                LML-VESPA NV(1990) Sold
                                TVS-Suzuki Shogun(1994)

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