Announcement

**Bibhudatta** · 09-01-2013, 10:06 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post

Found a shell dealer in yellahanka, Bangalore. Now its easier to source the r4. But I have a doubt. Can 1 litre of r4 be mixed with r3 to make it 1.1 liters?? Cause I have little bit of r3x left

Sent from my MT27i using Tapatalk 2

I dont think there would be any problem...both are originally one oil with with same basic structure with R4 being the updated version..

**psr** · 09-01-2013, 10:12 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post

Found a shell dealer in yellahanka, Bangalore. Now its easier to source the r4. But I have a doubt. Can 1 litre of r4 be mixed with r3 to make it 1.1 liters?? Cause I have little bit of r3x left

Sent from my MT27i using Tapatalk 2

Yes like @ Bibhudatta said it can be done

**vishnurajanme** · 09-02-2013, 07:23 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Hi, jz cornered why ZMR does not look as good as R15 :P

R15 front fairing portion including the headlight assembly is somewhat shorter than the ZMR. i.e, at the front portion, ZMR is having more height. See these snaps.

See over here, you can clearly notice the difference

See this one too. This happens as there is lot of space between the fairing and the wheel covering to accommodate the number plate.

Now see this photo.

In this snap, the bike was at a very good acceleration level and I suddenly applied the front brake.

Is there any way to alter the front shocks part or something so as to make the bike always like this? Number can be written on the visor.

**Divya Sharan** · 09-02-2013, 07:36 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by vishnurajanme View Post

Is there any way to alter the front shocks part or something so as to make the bike always like this? Number can be written on the visor.

1. ZMR has 18 inch wheels, R15 has 17 inchers. Hence, more height by default.
2. Number plates on front and rear are required by law for Indian 2 wheelers and SBKs have some exemption.
3. Even if you do some jugaad, you'd end up with a broken HL assy or broken fender in bad roads. Also, GC would reduce.

**rreneav1987** · 09-02-2013, 08:11 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by vishnurajanme View Post

Hi, jz cornered why ZMR does not look as good as R15 :P

R15 front fairing portion including the headlight assembly is somewhat shorter than the ZMR. i.e, at the front portion, ZMR is having more height. See these snaps.

See over here, you can clearly notice the difference

See this one too. This happens as there is lot of space between the fairing and the wheel covering to accommodate the number plate.

Now see this photo.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]114847[/ATTACH]

In this snap, the bike was at a very good acceleration level and I suddenly applied the front brake.

Is there any way to alter the front shocks part or something so as to make the bike always like this? Number can be written on the visor.

Please remove this pic in which you are riding without a safety gear on your head before the mods remove it..

now.. coming to the looks.. the fairing of the ZMR is mounted at a higher point which doesn't make it look sporty. Whereas the R15 fairing is placed low.. If you notice the difference between the stunner and the ignitor, the ignitor (IMO) will look better thanks to its lower fairing as compared to the stunners...

going for modifications will only screw the bike and in some point particular view I find the R15 V1 looking like a bug..

the R15 V2 looks hot no doubt..

Also like divya has mentioned.. the alloy wheel itself is less by an inch reducing the bike GC by 1 inch more.. If you end up lowering the front fairing of ZMR, you will end up breaking the fairing/fendor..

If you liked the looks of R15, why did you go for the ZMR? just a question that rises in my head every time a ZMR owner comes up saying this bike looks better than ZMR, this bike has better performance than ZMR..

I don't understand WHYYYY

**abhi7013** · 09-02-2013, 08:20 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by vishnurajanme View Post

Hi, jz cornered why ZMR does not look as good as R15 :P

R15 front fairing portion including the headlight assembly is somewhat shorter than the ZMR. i.e, at the front portion, ZMR is having more height. See these snaps.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]114845[/ATTACH]

See over here, you can clearly notice the difference

[ATTACH=CONFIG]114846[/ATTACH]

See this one too. This happens as there is lot of space between the fairing and the wheel covering to accommodate the number plate.

Now see this photo.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]114847[/ATTACH]

In this snap, the bike was at a very good acceleration level and I suddenly applied the front brake.

Is there any way to alter the front shocks part or something so as to make the bike always like this? Number can be written on the visor.

You can say its directly related to the rider's posture. They have provided you an erect posture when compared to the r15 which means your handle bars have to be taller. For that, the fairing too had to come up. Else it'll look like the bike in the spy pics of p375. Short fairing and higher handle bars. Yuck!!

Sent from my MT27i using Tapatalk 2

**vishnurajanme** · 09-02-2013, 10:26 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

Please remove this pic in which you are riding without a safety gear on your head before the mods remove it..

Will do

now.. coming to the looks.. the fairing of the ZMR is mounted at a higher point which doesn't make it look sporty. Whereas the R15 fairing is placed low.. If you notice the difference between the stunner and the ignitor, the ignitor (IMO) will look better thanks to its lower fairing as compared to the stunners...

going for modifications will only screw the bike and in some point particular view I find the R15 V1 looking like a bug..

the R15 V2 looks hot no doubt..

Also like divya has mentioned.. the alloy wheel itself is less by an inch reducing the bike GC by 1 inch more.. If you end up lowering the front fairing of ZMR, you will end up breaking the fairing/fendor..

Thats what I told. The idea of removing the number plate mount and mounting it on the vison So even if the fairing is lowered, enough gap will be there between the wheel cover and fairing. So no chances to take a hit

If you liked the looks of R15, why did you go for the ZMR? just a question that rises in my head every time a ZMR owner comes up saying this bike looks better than ZMR, this bike has better performance than ZMR..

I never liked the R15 V1. I love the R15 V2 999999X more than my ZMR. But when I was planning to buy a bike, R15 V2 was still in yamaha's nerves. V2 saw light after I got my ZMR. But still I love d ZMR for it's performance. V2 is a total package. No use in saying strained 150 cc always. Coz their engine parts are 100000000X better than the ZMR'. Just google!

I don't understand WHYYYY

Answers in bold

Also, is there any option the adjust the height of the front shocks? Coz adjusting the height + removing the front numberplate mount will perfectly do the trick. Fender will not strike anywhere, and also no change in seating posture too. Effect will be same as we apply the brakes. THink yourselves

**abhi7013** · 09-02-2013, 10:57 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by vishnurajanme View Post

Answers in bold

Also, is there any option the adjust the height of the front shocks? Coz adjusting the height + removing the front numberplate mount will perfectly do the trick. Fender will not strike anywhere, and also no change in seating posture too. Effect will be same as we apply the brakes. THink yourselves

Riding posture does get effected. I don't see how the shock absorber height can be adjusted without effecting posture.

Sent from my MT27i using Tapatalk 2

**vishnurajanme** · 09-02-2013, 11:03 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post

Riding posture does get effected. I don't see how the shock absorber height can be adjusted without effecting posture.

Sent from my MT27i using Tapatalk 2

like, when we break, the front fairing goes down, but still, seating posture is not affected. its jz coz the whole seat itself goes down. mayb our field of vision vl change. daz y

**Divya Sharan** · 09-02-2013, 11:48 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by vishnurajanme View Post

like, when we break, the front fairing goes down, but still, seating posture is not affected. its jz coz the whole seat itself goes down. mayb our field of vision vl change. daz y

You seem to be loving the R15 V2 a lot bro. That means it'd be impartial to both bikes, the ZMR and the V2. Save up and get one.

Now coming to the bike geometry, see the pic below.

If you cut just the front suspension, you'd alter the rake and trail measurements and then the handling would go haywire. If you cut both front and rear suspension, the GC would reduce. Not viable. That's the reason such mods haven't been done on any Karizma in its 10 years of existence.

**snehithpereira** · 09-03-2013, 12:02 AM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

Now coming to the bike geometry, see the pic below.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]114916[/ATTACH]

Sorry for the OT, but m curious. Did u make that sketch yourself for the purpose of explanation?

Sent from my GT-I9300 using xBhp Connect mobile app

**snehithpereira** · 09-03-2013, 12:06 AM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by vishnurajanme View Post

like, when we break, the front fairing goes down, but still, seating posture is not affected. its jz coz the whole seat itself goes down. mayb our field of vision vl change. daz y

To better understand the drawback of this kind of alteration, just imagine u applying your zmr's break right between a speed breaker. And now imagine riding like tht all the time.

well thts the result of the hypothetical alteration

Sent from my GT-I9300 using xBhp Connect mobile app

**rreneav1987** · 09-03-2013, 12:08 AM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by vishnurajanme View Post

Answers in bold

Also, is there any option the adjust the height of the front shocks? Coz adjusting the height + removing the front numberplate mount will perfectly do the trick. Fender will not strike anywhere, and also no change in seating posture too. Effect will be same as we apply the brakes. THink yourselves

There ate lots of chances for it to take a hit.. even without anu modification done my bike takes a big hit when by mistake i go over a huge pothole.. thanks to the extra space between the fender and fairing it never broke. Now think ehat might have happened if it was a little lower.. i guess the rnd guys arent that dumb.. they consider all the measure before bringing it to us..

Sent from my Spice Mi-530 using Tapatalk 4

**Divya Sharan** · 09-03-2013, 12:18 AM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by snehithpereira View Post

Sorry for the OT, but m curious. Did u make that sketch yourself for the purpose of explanation?

Naah, I'm a lazy bastard.

Picked it off wikipedia. Simple and easy to understand rendering.

**vishnurajanme** · 09-03-2013, 12:58 PM

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

There ate lots of chances for it to take a hit.. even without anu modification done my bike takes a big hit when by mistake i go over a huge pothole.. thanks to the extra space between the fender and fairing it never broke. Now think ehat might have happened if it was a little lower.. i guess the rnd guys arent that dumb.. they consider all the measure before bringing it to us..

Sent from my Spice Mi-530 using Tapatalk 4

Already avoided the possibility of hitting my removing the numberplate mount. Mentioned in old posts bro.
Removing number plate mount = extra space which can be utilized by lowering the fairing. Now got it?

----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

Naah, I'm a lazy bastard.

Picked it off wikipedia. Simple and easy to understand rendering.

Thanks divya for the simple explanation. YOU ROCK!!!

No doubt why someone here had a crush on ya. :P

Announcement

Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment