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  • #10636
    Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

    [MENTION=41586]Divya Sharan[/MENTION] and [MENTION=27501]rreneav1987[/MENTION]- thanks for the suggestion. Shall do it. Shall take a pic of the spark plug and also shall see if there is any smoke coming out. Till now I didn't observe any though.

    Sent from my MT27i using Tapatalk 2
    ZMR- PGMFI re-defined

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    • #10637
      Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

      Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post
      Again the same issue. Burning smell and kat kat sound. Katkat sound is Normal when the engine gets stressed I know. But this sound is a bit different and happens even at 4-5k rpm, 5th gear and I observed that eveb if not WOT, the sound is there. And it happens ONLY when the engine is hot. Wanna sort this out. Please tell me what all things that the mech has to inspect. Am strongly suspecting radiator or some problem inside the engine. Cause the smell is similar to burnt oil. Btw, oil is not old.

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      I would request you to do another test. While you have opened the spark plug just using a torch having pencil beam focus through the spark plug hole into the combustion chamber, if the piston is not at top then shift to fifth gear and slowly rotate the wheel till piston comes to top. Check the top of piston how is the carbon deposit, if it is thick then it is not allowing the heat from combustion chamber to get transferred to piston and finally to outside which is causing the problem, next keep on rotating the wheel and you will see the valves opening and check each valve for any pitting on the seat.

      Moreover if tappets has been adjusted at ASC then get it checked with feeler gauge as those idiots would have tightened it too much.

      These are just my suggestions, so please have a look at these.
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      • #10638
        Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

        It seems that my ZMR battery is gonna die soon....starting is fine....but sometime taking long stroke to get started....horn sound get low if indicator or head light is on.......It has been 1 year and 10 months; since the battery is changed...my earlier stock battery last for same period....

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        • #10639
          Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

          Originally posted by veryhiphop View Post
          It seems that my ZMR battery is gonna die soon....starting is fine....but sometime taking long stroke to get started....horn sound get low if indicator or head light is on.......It has been 1 year and 10 months; since the battery is changed...my earlier stock battery last for same period....
          The symptoms of a battery going to die.. did you get the battery charged?? Get it charged and see the outcome
          Splendor - 2k to 2006
          Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
          P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
          Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
          ZMR - 2010 to Forever
          RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
          Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
          RayZ - 2015 til now
          Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


          Delhi to Narkanda
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          • #10640
            Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

            Originally posted by veryhiphop View Post
            It seems that my ZMR battery is gonna die soon....starting is fine....but sometime taking long stroke to get started....horn sound get low if indicator or head light is on.......It has been 1 year and 10 months; since the battery is changed...my earlier stock battery last for same period....
            Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
            The symptoms of a battery going to die.. did you get the battery charged?? Get it charged and see the outcome
            Maybe you don't ride enough for the battery to charge/retain charge. I'm still on stock battery! Wonder how come most OE fitments are still there on the bike. lolz.
            Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
            Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

            Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
            Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
            ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
            P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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            • #10641
              Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

              Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
              Maybe you don't ride enough for the battery to charge/retain charge. I'm still on stock battery! Wonder how come most OE fitments are still there on the bike. lolz.
              Like I said in a previous post.. some spare parts of your bike are immortal

              you are blessed my dear friend.. you are truly blessed as for me.. I have changed 2 rear brake pads and 2 front brake pad till now.. the chain set once.. air filter once.. gonna change it soon before the next tour.. got the clutch cable changed before completing 10000kms as the cable bent due to a fall and had to get it changed..

              changed the front and rear tires at 22500kms and boy I just love riding my black pearl and never got bored till now I will have to soon change the fairing set and I am hoping the refresh ZMR's fairing is a direct fit and i am praying it looks good enough
              Splendor - 2k to 2006
              Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
              P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
              Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
              ZMR - 2010 to Forever
              RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
              Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
              RayZ - 2015 til now
              Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


              Delhi to Narkanda
              Delhi to Coimbatore
              Delhi to Nepal

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              • #10642
                Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                Like I said in a previous post.. some spare parts of your bike are immortal

                you are blessed my dear friend.. you are truly blessed as for me.. I have changed 2 rear brake pads and 2 front brake pad till now.. the chain set once.. air filter once.. gonna change it soon before the next tour.. got the clutch cable changed before completing 10000kms as the cable bent due to a fall and had to get it changed..

                changed the front and rear tires at 22500kms and boy I just love riding my black pearl and never got bored till now I will have to soon change the fairing set and I am hoping the refresh ZMR's fairing is a direct fit and i am praying it looks good enough
                Wow, you've changed almost everything! Hope your engine stays OE all the time!
                I'm somehow still surviving on:
                Stock - rear brake pads, clutch plates, battery, front tire, all plastics etc.

                Changed the rear tire, AF (thrice), spark plug (twice) and sprocket kit along with other consumables once. I just hope they last forever.
                Last edited by Divya Sharan; 09-04-2013, 11:27 AM. Reason: spell check
                Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                • #10643
                  Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                  Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                  The symptoms of a battery going to die.. did you get the battery charged?? Get it charged and see the outcome
                  No battery is not been charged....shall be going to battery check shop this evening....then shall know if charging a battery shall work or need a replacement....

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                  Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                  Maybe you don't ride enough for the battery to charge/retain charge. I'm still on stock battery! Wonder how come most OE fitments are still there on the bike. lolz.

                  In a week my ZMR run for 200 km...daily ride of 40 km except weekend...
                  Last edited by veryhiphop; 09-04-2013, 11:39 AM.

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                  • #10644
                    Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                    Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                    Wow, you've changed almost everything! Hope your engine stays OE all the time!
                    I'm somehow still surviving on:
                    Stock - rear brake pads, clutch plates, battery, front tire, all plastics etc.

                    Changed the rear tire, AF (thrice), spark plug (twice) and sprocket kit along with other consumables once. I just hope they last forever.
                    My only long lasting ones were sprockets til 31k and still on stock spark plug. Shall go to mech on Saturday next week. Shall do what [MENTION=28527]sibun[/MENTION] told too. Thank you

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                    ZMR- PGMFI re-defined

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                    • #10645
                      Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                      Originally posted by veryhiphop View Post
                      No battery is not been charged....shall be going to battery check shop this evening....then shall know if charging a battery shall work or need a replacement....

                      In a week my ZMR run for 200 km...daily ride of 40 km except weekend...
                      Same as mine. I do 48 kms daily. The point is what RPM do you maintain? If you do 20 kms one way at <4k RPM, battery won't charge.
                      Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                      Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                      Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                      Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                      ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                      P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                      • #10646
                        Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                        Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                        Same as mine. I do 48 kms daily. The point is what RPM do you maintain? If you do 20 kms one way at <4k RPM, battery won't charge.
                        That a new information that i came to know that less the 4k RPM battery shall not charge....

                        Mine ZMR ride is in City...sometime there is traffic...and in rear case i shall find a open road to drive more then 80 km....and i usually run near to 60km speed...

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                        • #10647
                          Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                          Originally posted by vishnurajanme View Post

                          I never liked the R15 V1. I love the R15 V2 999999X more than my ZMR. But when I was planning to buy a bike, R15 V2 was still in yamaha's nerves. V2 saw light after I got my ZMR. But still I love d ZMR for it's performance. V2 is a total package. No use in saying strained 150 cc always. Coz their engine parts are 100000000X better than the ZMR'.

                          Answers in bold

                          Also, is there any option the adjust the height of the front shocks? Coz adjusting the height + removing the front numberplate mount will perfectly do the trick. Fender will not strike anywhere, and also no change in seating posture too. Effect will be same as we apply the brakes. THink yourselves
                          I would just like to know, on what basis you are comparing quality of both engines??
                          after riding both bikes extensively I can say both bikes have great engines, ZMR already has a proven gem of a Honda engine..though in my opinion what is the major difference between both engines is that R15 has an LC'ed engine..that makes it less strained even after tuning it for higher power from an engine having lesser displacement. apart from that, ZMR has an advantage in its engine.
                          Suzuki Gixxer - Current
                          Karizma ZMR <3 - Sold
                          Apache RTR160 - Sold
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                          • #10648
                            Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                            Originally posted by veryhiphop View Post
                            That a new information that i came to know that less the 4k RPM battery shall not charge....

                            Mine ZMR ride is in City...sometime there is traffic...and in rear case i shall find a open road to drive more then 80 km....and i usually run near to 60km speed...
                            Yes, it needs ~4K RPM to charge the battery. Basically you need to do 64 in 5th within city. Drop a gear. Do 60 in 4th. Or 50 in 3rd. Better, if possible; take her out on a highway for 20-30 kms and ride over 70 kmph for around half an hour. She'll be charged!
                            Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                            Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                            Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                            Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                            ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                            P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                            • #10649
                              Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                              Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                              Same as mine. I do 48 kms daily. The point is what RPM do you maintain? If you do 20 kms one way at <4k RPM, battery won't charge.
                              Originally posted by veryhiphop View Post
                              That a new information that i came to know that less the 4k RPM battery shall not charge....

                              Mine ZMR ride is in City...sometime there is traffic...and in rear case i shall find a open road to drive more then 80 km....and i usually run near to 60km speed...
                              ZMA/ZMR starts charging right from idling RPM....want proof...start the engine and let it idle..Put the probes of a Multimeter and see for yourself....it will be from 13.7 ~ 14.3 Volts DC..At 3,000 RPM the coils can work at it's maximum capacity of 188 watts(Appr 15 amps) in ZMA and 18 Amps in ZMR...
                              It is the continued charge that is required by the Lead acid cell that makes the difference...My Amaron 9 AH battery is 2 yrs old...I use the bike for 8~10 Kms on weekends for the past 6 months and never faced starting or charging problems....
                              When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                              • #10650
                                Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                                Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                                Yes, it needs ~4K RPM to charge the battery. Basically you need to do 64 in 5th within city. Drop a gear. Do 60 in 4th. Or 50 in 3rd. Better, if possible; take her out on a highway for 20-30 kms and ride over 70 kmph for around half an hour. She'll be charged!
                                Originally posted by psr View Post
                                ZMA/ZMR starts charging right from idling RPM....want proof...start the engine and let it idle..Put the probes of a Multimeter and see for yourself....it will be from 13.7 ~ 14.3 Volts DC..At 3,000 RPM the coils can work at it's maximum capacity of 188 watts(Appr 15 amps) in ZMA and 18 Amps in ZMR...
                                It is the continued charge that is required by the Lead acid cell that makes the difference...My Amaron 9 AH battery is 2 yrs old...I use the bike for 8~10 Kms on weekends for the past 6 months and never faced starting or charging problems....

                                So it means charging start as ZMR starts....

                                What does this mean "It is the continued charge that is required by the Lead acid cell that makes the difference"....

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