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**Durvesh_RTR** · 01-17-2014, 11:50 AM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by Phil_Ivor View Post

My bike has been Joel'd too and i also used to experience the fishtailing at highspeed. What i thought was that i was being too harsh with the nature of my acceleration and sudden burst of power led to the rear wheel spinning. What i did was only smoothened out my acceleration inputs and the fishtailing was all gone.

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Which tyres are you running? I remember reading you have upsized your tyre? how is the bike's performance after upsizing? regarding top speed ,acceleration and stability?

I bought rtr for accelerating hard !! I thought maybe after putting 120/80 style softcompound tyres I would loose some top speed due to tyre hight but It would give enough traction for hard acceleration because Apache is quick but not super quick sad I wount be able to accelerate hard!

by the way what is the top speed you are achieving on joeled rtr with big tyres and is the acceleration crisp still?

**Phil_Ivor** · 01-17-2014, 12:21 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by Durvesh_RTR View Post

Which tyres are you running? I remember reading you have upsized your tyre? how is the bike's performance after upsizing? regarding top speed ,acceleration and stability?

I bought rtr for accelerating hard !! I thought maybe after putting 120/80 style softcompound tyres I would loose some top speed due to tyre hight but It would give enough traction for hard acceleration because Apache is quick but not super quick sad I wount be able to accelerate hard!

by the way what is the top speed you are achieving on joeled rtr with big tyres and is the acceleration crisp still?

I am running on MRF FX 100/80 17" front and MRF Zapper Q 120/80 17" rear. Well i couldn't feel any lack in performance but the front got a wee bit heavier than normal. Nothing a few kms of riding and getting used to won't cure

Yes u can still accelerate hard bro but you need to be smoother with the throttle inputs. We cannot just chop the throttle, try to be gradual yet fast.

So far I have touched 132kmph.. that was my fastest. The bike hovers around 110-115 with ease though. And yes the acceleration is still crisp

But, I feel, to get the best out of the bike, better stick to the stock tyre specs of the bike. U can upgrade to stickier rubber but try to stick to the stock specs so that it won't ruin the feel of the bike.

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**madhav766** · 01-17-2014, 01:08 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by Durvesh_RTR View Post

thanks but I was riding for 4hrs before I did a top speed test note :for 4 hrs i was riding at 6000 rpm

This test was done by my friend who also was riding full night with me on his duke 390 (he is an experienced rider ) he didn't feel it to go sideways

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My chain was also a bit loose I got it tightened next day by svc .

Madhav which tyres are you running? since you have joeled bike your acceleration will be even more !

Note my bike doesnt fish tail continiously !! it happens suddenly and then dissappers I am thinking it is due to loss of traction like accelerating hard on super bike you make loose traction .I think since I opened fulll throttle and tvs tyres arn't sticky and there was uneven traction on the road surface this thing happened .

Any inputs on pirelli sports demon tyres? or zapper tyres?

And where can I get Computerised wheel alignment done for my bike?

Was your friend riding the d390? Or was he riding your RTR? Were you sitting pillion with him on either bike? I'm sorry, but that first bolded statement is confusing.

I was planning to but I never Joel'd her. I'm still studying so I had to find sponsors for the process... who refused to sponsor it.

And yes.. if your bike doesn't fishtail continuously, it cant be a tire issue. Is there any other way you could loose traction? IMHO wheel alignment has to be a problem. I'm still on the stock tires.

I dont think computerized wheel alignment is available for motorbikes. At least not on the streets.

**Durvesh_RTR** · 01-17-2014, 01:56 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by madhav766 View Post

Was your friend riding the d390? Or was he riding your RTR? Were you sitting pillion with him on either bike? I'm sorry, but that first bolded statement is confusing.

I was planning to but I never Joel'd her. I'm still studying so I had to find sponsors for the process... who refused to sponsor it.

And yes.. if your bike doesn't fishtail continuously, it cant be a tire issue. Is there any other way you could loose traction? IMHO wheel alignment has to be a problem. I'm still on the stock tires.

I dont think computerized wheel alignment is available for motorbikes. At least not on the streets.

Sorry for not being clear . There were three of us .Me and my friend both bought new bikes he was riding d390 I was riding my apache and one more fellow was riding pillion alternating on both bikes . My friend did the alignment test on both my bike and his he found his bike d390 to go little right but no deviation on my bike.

and all the three of us were riding both bikes pilot and pillion just changing the combination now and then we were riding full night from 10 pm in night and returned next day afternoon at 2 .

**madhav766** · 01-17-2014, 02:42 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by Durvesh_RTR View Post

Sorry for not being clear . There were three of us .Me and my friend both bought new bikes he was riding d390 I was riding my apache and one more fellow was riding pillion alternating on both bikes . My friend did the alignment test on both my bike and his he found his bike d390 to go little right but no deviation on my bike.

and all the three of us were riding both bikes pilot and pillion just changing the combination now and then we were riding full night from 10 pm in night and returned next day afternoon at 2.

That's some heavy riding you are doing on a new bike. Make sure you make frequent oil changes(250-350km once atleast) in the run in period, and a little after that. Hmm.. then I cant be sure. Maybe your tires have worn out unevenly... I remember a discussion somewhere about uneven tires making the bike run funny. I can't be too sure. I haven't faced such an issue.

**Durvesh_RTR** · 01-17-2014, 03:27 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by madhav766 View Post

That's some heavy riding you are doing on a new bike. Make sure you make frequent oil changes(250-350km once atleast) in the run in period, and a little after that. Hmm.. then I cant be sure. Maybe your tires have worn out unevenly... I remember a discussion somewhere about uneven tires making the bike run funny. I can't be too sure. I haven't faced such an issue.

I visited the ASC before going home he checked the oil levels tuned the carb idling and tightned the chain the first service is tommorow at 11.00am there is no wear on my tyres .

I just dont think the rear tyre has enough traction to prevent the wheel from slipping at sudden full throttle .The funniest part is that the bike didtnt fishtail or even wobble when I was pillion (Since the bike could only accelerate in steady linear fashion due to the weight) .

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Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post

Yes you are right

.. I never thought of this....

Anyways, I am also planning to change Tyres, as I will be changing Fibre parts too...

Bike will come as whole new by the end of this month. :-)

Was there change in the Handling of the bike when you changed to a 120/80 rear? any inputs on that?

Originally posted by Phil_Ivor View Post

I am running on MRF FX 100/80 17" front and MRF Zapper Q 120/80 17" rear. Well i couldn't feel any lack in performance but the front got a wee bit heavier than normal. Nothing a few kms of riding and getting used to won't cure

Yes u can still accelerate hard bro but you need to be smoother with the throttle inputs. We cannot just chop the throttle, try to be gradual yet fast.

So far I have touched 132kmph.. that was my fastest. The bike hovers around 110-115 with ease though. And yes the acceleration is still crisp

But, I feel, to get the best out of the bike, better stick to the stock tyre specs of the bike. U can upgrade to stickier rubber but try to stick to the stock specs so that it won't ruin the feel of the bike.

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Which tyres will be the best?

I had thought of Zapper FYI (r15)90/80 front and zapper VYDE 120/80 rear
or Some nice pirelli MT75
90/80 - 17 M/C 46S TL for front
110/80 - 17 M/C 57S TL for rear

You have any other suggestions?

**Abishek94** · 01-17-2014, 08:44 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

hey guys, i had posted a few pages ago about the using steel braided brake lines. The front brake was performing well till about 4 days ago when i had to suddenly brake from about 70kmph in a very short distance because some senior citizen was crossing the road without taking note of the oncoming traffic on either side. after this situation the brakes became a bit spongy. (immediately after this)

the difference in feel of the brake is clearly noticable. Just as a precaution i checked for leaks and dint find any. I did bleed the brakes but that did not help. The brake pads will easily last another 2000km. The pistons on the caliper were dirty due to accumulation of dust etc. Third service coming up in a few days!
any idea what caused this? solutions are welcome!

**varghese2659** · 01-18-2014, 03:33 AM

Apache RTR 180 ABS Engine Oil

Hi Guys,

I have an Apache RTR 180 ABS 'Beast', Its 9 months old.

I have a problem, whenever I raise the engine to 5 and above(RPM). I get a burning smell and the gear change is not completely smooth.

When I start the bike and hold down the clutch, I hear a noise like some part of the bike is rubbing against the other.
I asked the TVS techs in service center, they said its nothing.......

Also please let me know which is the best engine oil for my bike cause I have my doubts on the performance and functionality of the TVS engine oil.

Thanks,

Varghese

**shahbaz63** · 01-18-2014, 12:16 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by Abishek94 View Post

hey guys, i had posted a few pages ago about the using steel braided brake lines. The front brake was performing well till about 4 days ago when i had to suddenly brake from about 70kmph in a very short distance because some senior citizen was crossing the road without taking note of the oncoming traffic on either side. after this situation the brakes became a bit spongy. (immediately after this)

the difference in feel of the brake is clearly noticable. Just as a precaution i checked for leaks and dint find any. I did bleed the brakes but that did not help. The brake pads will easily last another 2000km. The pistons on the caliper were dirty due to accumulation of dust etc. Third service coming up in a few days!
any idea what caused this? solutions are welcome!

Bleed your brake...

Originally posted by Durvesh_RTR View Post

Was there change in the Handling of the bike when you changed to a 120/80 rear? any inputs on that?

Which tyres will be the best?

I had thought of Zapper FYI (r15)90/80 front and zapper VYDE 120/80 rear
or Some nice pirelli MT75
90/80 - 17 M/C 46S TL for front
110/80 - 17 M/C 57S TL for rear

You have any other suggestions?

Depends on tyre, mine is Vertigo so def. not for cornering rest looks fine.

**Abishek94** · 01-18-2014, 03:42 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post

Bleed your brake...

.

Will do n report back.

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**prateek2210** · 01-18-2014, 06:50 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

@varghese2659 : Burning smell happens in my 3 year old RTR too, so I guess its normal (others do share if any specific reason).
Oil : As mentioned I prefer Shel AX7 than mineral and full synthethic oils.

@Tribals : Feels bad to inform you all that the projectors are gone now

**nadz11.ns** · 01-18-2014, 06:55 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by prateek2210 View Post

@Tribals : Feels bad to inform you all that the projectors are gone now

Good thing.

They would not have been of much help in mountainous regions (considering you are planning a trip later this year)

**prateek2210** · 01-18-2014, 10:55 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by nadz11.ns View Post

Good thing.

They would not have been of much help in mountainous regions (considering you are planning a trip later this year)

The throw was far better than stock candle light illumination. Only reason to change was I could not find anyone here who can do coil rewinding and I am not good in electrical DIYs, so opted for this and projector is on Sale

**nadz11.ns** · 01-18-2014, 10:59 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by prateek2210 View Post

The throw was far better than stock candle light illumination. Only reason to change was I could not find anyone here who can do coil rewinding and I am not good in electrical DIYs, so opted for this and projector is on Sale

Ok ok.. Its exactly opposite to what i said.

my bad.
I don't have any personal experience with projectors, but seen a few on the road and their illumination was pathetic.

**Rahul.g** · 01-19-2014, 12:03 AM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

My RTR 160 is running on 90/90 17" michelin pilot sporty for front and 120/80 17" zapper vyde for rear, so far o have done around 2k kms on this setup.
It grips very well now, cornering is fun now and not much difference in performance. I managed a top speed of 126 kmph( speedo indicated).

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