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  • Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post
    But K&N/Cossworth Filter with Iridium Spark Plug & Spitfire cable can do some good to RTR (And I Would be happy If my bike sound wont change too, not doing for sound but for little bit performance) & practically i think it will make make rpm stable & also will help in better A/F performance ...
    All the best then.....

    P.S : Adding any exhaust to your bike means you would be playing with the exhaust outlet which in itself is a precision job. Dont you think if Leo Vince wanted RTR users to put Fazer's exhaust , they would have mentioned that it can be used in RTR "too".... I understand that our country is full of "jugaad", but we need to stop using our bikes as guinea pigs for different "jugaad" or experiments
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    • Originally posted by prateek2210 View Post
      All the best then.....

      P.S : Adding any exhaust to your bike means you would be playing with the exhaust outlet which in itself is a precision job. Dont you think if Leo Vince wanted RTR users to put Fazer's exhaust , they would have mentioned that it can be used in RTR "too".... I understand that our country is full of "jugaad", but we need to stop using our bikes as guinea pigs for different "jugaad" or experiments

      Whats the problem in Jugaad ? :O

      I Mean only if Leo Vince gives Certification to xyz exhaust we can use it ? we should change this thinking & start Doing some research & R&D, that's how you develop something ... Leo Vince doenst make ehaust for RTR (Specifically, coz of Sales perspective) same when you Joeled your bike you are again doing Jugad kind of thing in language of TVS company, if its available then why TVS Can't make it ? simple as that ...

      Other Question OT is why does people mod there mobile (custom rom) ?
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      • Anybody from bangalore planning to go to the G2G in november?
        Don't matter what it is: Touring; Racing; Commuting. All I know is, I belong on the saddle.

        Rides : Honda CB Twister(Feb 2011 - Present) | TVS Apache RTR 180 ABS(Sept 2012 - May 2016) | Honda CBR250R C-ABS Repsol(March 2017 - Present)

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        • Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post
          Whats the problem in Jugaad ? :OI Mean only if Leo Vince gives Certification to xyz exhaust we can use it ? we should change this thinking & start Doing some research & R&D, that's how you develop something ... Leo Vince doenst make ehaust for RTR (Specifically, coz of Sales perspective) same when you Joeled your bike you are again doing Jugad kind of thing in language of TVS company, if its available then why TVS Can't make it ? simple as that ... Other Question OT is why does people mod there mobile (custom rom) ?
          Sorry to say but the kind of R&D you are doing will riun your bike.You can not just swap any exhust in any bike, there are certain specifications and parameters that needs to be followed.And you are saying that installing joels performance products is a 'jugaad', OMG. Joel sir has the skills which I highly dought you have, his products are tired and tested.@all: installing aftermarket freeflow airfilters will never reduce viberations, what must have happen with vivekgautam is that his a/f misture must have been on the richer side and by installing a ffa, the rich mixture was compensated making the a/f mixture near to optimum which in return reduced viberation.
          Last edited by Viscmad; 09-20-2012, 05:19 PM.
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          • Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post
            Whats the problem in Jugaad ? :O
            And my question is "WHY?" . Are you not happy with your bike? Human being starts experimenting or in Indian terminology jugaad-doing when he has no other option to make his thing better. The more you do "jugaad", the more you are endangering the reliability of the stock part


            Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post
            I Mean only if Leo Vince gives Certification to xyz exhaust we can use it ? we should change this thinking & start Doing some research & R&D, that's how you develop something ... Leo Vince doenst make ehaust for RTR (Specifically, coz of Sales perspective) same when you Joeled your bike you are again doing Jugad kind of thing in language of TVS company, if its available then why TVS Can't make it ? simple as that ...
            Now coming to this part. Have you ever noticed that the exhaust outlet of all bikes are of different sizes, but yes we Indians, just to save some money do all the "jugaad" and use it, without thinking what would be the long-term effect on the bike/engine.
            You want to do some research and R&D, go ahead and do it on your bike, and if you get the best result post it,but don't give the same idea to others to do that till you have something in black and white. Don't you think TVS , Leo Vince, Joel have not done their R&D before coming up with their respective products. You said Leo Vince dont make exhaust for RTR, do you have some written proof for that from the company or you work for them, that you are so sure of your answer? I
            Lets do this your way, try PM Joel and ask whether his P220's/R15's exhaust can be fitted on RTR, and he will give you a good explanation.

            Now to your OT on ROM, I am sure people were happy with Nokia 1100 when these mobiles was not there or were they not? One would only go for custom ROM when you either hear a good experience from your near and dear ones or read a review from a pro on a website like xdadevelopers etc etc. Will you go for it if your close friend says , "My mobile hangs more often after the upgrade." . Would you keep your 15k-20k worth mobile on stake just for a ROM/ OS upgrade? If someone does, he need to change the way he thinks then.

            The fashion of K&N, Spitfire, Iridium plugs was here in 2008 and it slowly vanished because of increasing issues that the users faced.

            We, Indians have the best brains in the whole world, still we fall in the "developing country", you know why? Because we trust more on jugaads and saving money than going out and spending a little more on reliable things. And if this goes on, we will always be in that category.

            For any other queries, you are welcome to PM me, or msg me on FB. I would like to stop the gross OT here

            Originally posted by madhav766 View Post
            Anybody from bangalore planning to go to the G2G in november?
            Try here (Link)
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            • Wowww... Too much of typing happening here Its been some time since i came here and have quite a lot to read. But guys, type less, ride more...

              Here are some pics as usual... Hope i havent posted it here earlier!
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              • Originally posted by prateek2210 View Post

                Try here (Link)
                Bro, I have posted there. I was tryna be RTR riders specific. Thanks anyway.
                Don't matter what it is: Touring; Racing; Commuting. All I know is, I belong on the saddle.

                Rides : Honda CB Twister(Feb 2011 - Present) | TVS Apache RTR 180 ABS(Sept 2012 - May 2016) | Honda CBR250R C-ABS Repsol(March 2017 - Present)

                Break-in tension? Read this.

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                • Originally posted by nisnth View Post
                  Wowww... Too much of typing happening here Its been some time since i came here and have quite a lot to read. But guys, type less, ride more...

                  Here are some pics as usual... Hope i havent posted it here earlier!
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                  Nishant! Lucky you! I'm still doing break in... So no rides for me as of yet. But soon I'll flood this thread with loads of pictures! Nice snaps by the way! Where is it?
                  Don't matter what it is: Touring; Racing; Commuting. All I know is, I belong on the saddle.

                  Rides : Honda CB Twister(Feb 2011 - Present) | TVS Apache RTR 180 ABS(Sept 2012 - May 2016) | Honda CBR250R C-ABS Repsol(March 2017 - Present)

                  Break-in tension? Read this.

                  Love camping and riding? Google - On Rustic Routes.

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                  • Nice pics Nishant.

                    Originally posted by Viscmad View Post
                    @all: installing aftermarket freeflow airfilters will never reduce viberations, what must have happen with vivekgautam is that his a/f misture must have been on the richer side and by installing a ffa, the rich mixture was compensated making the a/f mixture near to optimum which in return reduced viberation.

                    Had to agreed with you, bye the way, what I am thinking now is to find out the exact reason of Vibration after that we can atleats overcome 95% of Vibration's if not 100%.. What say's guys ?

                    And to those
                    Who want Roar sounds & all with K&N Filter, please note just installing K&N Filter will give you a joy of a Year or may be half of that but it will be pain in a55 after your bikes goes on running thousands of km ...

                    NOTE plz
                    @All (new RTRian's)- Unless its Been Certified or Completely trusted by any of the owner (who are capable of trusting & have proof to trust) do-not try any of the modification mentioned by anybody here (INCLUDING ME)... Keep in Mind that I am doing this all R&D & research kind a stuff keeping all necessary back up & appropriate knowledge (practically), so please stay with Stock as its a worthy too, unless you are really wanna explore everything of your bike extremely. And yes I am well aware about the damages I may end up with my bike ... so please listen to Prateek & Viscmad (senior & trusted owner's of Apache) and I am agreed to there point cent percent (about Filters & Exhaust).


                    Thanks.
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                    • @shaby : I am not senior my fellow rider, its just I don't want to see RTR being ill-treated. I have seen too many cons of these things, thats why...You will take care of your RTR, I am sure of that. So all in good health............ and no senior junior here..... We are RTR Tribals and "EQUAL"
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                      • Originally posted by madhav766 View Post
                        Nishant! Lucky you! I'm still doing break in... So no rides for me as of yet. But soon I'll flood this thread with loads of pictures! Nice snaps by the way! Where is it?
                        Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post
                        Nice pics Nishant.

                        Thanks guys. The first two pics are of Kabini reservoir and the rest are of Kanva Dam

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                        • @shaby as said by Prateek we all are EQUAL we all are Tribals We just shared what we know, and we being fellow biker want to helps each other.We just want that you dont waste your money and your bikes health on unnessary modificatons. Now coming to the viberations part, it will never completly go away. Tips to control viberation: 1. Do run-in well, use engine breaking more while in run-in. 2. Try to keep the A/F ratio to optimum 3. Keep chain cleaned and lubed 4. Use mineral oil for atleast first 5k km. These are only some of the simple tips one needs to follow to reduce some amount of viberations.
                          Last edited by Viscmad; 09-21-2012, 12:56 AM.
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                          for lights to turn green
                          *Fielding queries from massed onlookers
                          *Pushing dream bikes to their limits
                          *Blasting past slowpokes
                          *Hoiking the front wheel
                          *Scraping a knee around corners

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                          • @Nishant, Those are very nice pictures and the place looks quite beautiful. Could you tell us which place is that and where it is?

                            EDIT - Opps, Sorry, was busy checking the photos and din't realize that you had replied. :P
                            Last edited by Prithvi R; 09-21-2012, 12:30 AM.

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                            • Originally posted by Abhii46 View Post
                              I too came back from 650kms ride. Tires of TVS are really good, I cant tell about other's bike's tires but the performance of the tire on my bike in wet was also quite good, I rode almost 100-120kms in the rain and the tire did a good job.

                              Also got a very good mileage on the trip, 46kmpl from a 42000kms(38 months) old bike.
                              So we were riding almost the same time, eh? Went to hills and the ODO reads the trip to be a total of around 1100 kms. And buddy, out of the 14.5 hours of the riding on day-1, almost 8-9 hours would've been in rain The mileage I got is 43.5kmpl including 300 odd kms. of ripping in hills

                              P.S. Having problems in uploading pics in this newer version. Pics are being uploaded but unable to post full sized images in post. Tried posting as attachments as well as posting URLs, but they're being posted as thumbnails only.
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                              • Originally posted by prateek2210 View Post
                                @shaby : I am not senior my fellow rider, its just I don't want to see RTR being ill-treated. I have seen too many cons of these things, thats why...You will take care of your RTR, I am sure of that. So all in good health............ and no senior junior here..... We are RTR Tribals and "EQUAL"
                                Originally posted by Viscmad View Post
                                @shaby as said by Prateek we all are EQUAL we all are Tribals We just shared what we know, and we being fellow biker want to helps each other.We just want that you dont waste your money and your bikes health on unnessary modificatons. Now coming to the viberations part, it will never completly go away. Tips to control viberation: 1. Do run-in well, use engine breaking more while in run-in. 2. Try to keep the A/F ratio to optimum 3. Keep chain cleaned and lubed 4. Use mineral oil for atleast first 5k km. These are only some of the simple tips one needs to follow to reduce some amount of viberations.
                                @Both that's nice of you both, Keep Helping If not senior then trusted at least,we can trust on your info's


                                ...coming to Vibration any guess why it vibrates ? due to Torque ? or due to Compression Ratio? or any other thing ?

                                P.S. Having problems in uploading pics in this newer version. Pics are being uploaded but unable to post full sized images in post. Tried posting as attachments as well as posting URLs, but they're being posted as thumbnails only.
                                @Garry - When you are uploading an Image directly from PC please UNCHECK "Retrieve remote file and reference locally"

                                & Try ...
                                Last edited by shahbaz63; 09-21-2012, 10:47 AM.
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