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  • #15676
    Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

    Originally posted by kusmaker View Post
    That's what iam asking from Divyanshp, if he is suggesting this oil for apache in his post.
    For apache or almost any bike in the Indian market, the 20w50 or 15w50 should be more than enough in helping reducing operating temperature a bit and help running a cooler engine and for effective lubrication and reduced vibration.
    Though the number before the W shouldn't matter much 15w50 will also do.

    Cheers
    Ride Safe
    Krishna
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    • #15677
      Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

      Originally posted by kusmaker View Post
      Hope iam not troubling you man, but you have written after 5k sift to ax7, are you suggesting some 20w70 oil.
      He was talking about Shell Advance 4T AX7 which is a 10w40 oil. It is semi synthetic.

      I personally use Motul 5100 15w50

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      Last edited by evyavan; 05-21-2014, 10:35 AM.

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      • #15678
        Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

        Originally posted by ar4vind View Post
        Folks, is it common that 180s engine make that tappet sound after warming up? I mean, after a 15 min ride even in idle there is more tappet sound from engine. But while idling after cold start the engine sounds smooth. Do my rtr's tappets need adjustment?

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        Yes imo RTRs need tappet adjustment every now and then. But 15minutes of idling should not effect the tappets.
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        • #15679
          Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

          Originally posted by evyavan View Post
          He was talking about Shell Advance 4T AX7 which is a 10w40 oil. It is semi synthetic.

          I personally use Motul 5100 15w50

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          All right i got bit confused, thanks for the clarification.

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          • #15680
            Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

            Originally posted by kusmaker View Post
            Hope iam not troubling you man, but you have written after 5k sift to ax7, are you suggesting some 20w70 oil.
            No no shell advance ax7 4t is 10w40
            The axz that is 20w70 is for diesel trucks and high torque tractors

            Originally posted by ar4vind View Post
            Folks, is it common that 180s engine make that tappet sound after warming up? I mean, after a 15 min ride even in idle there is more tappet sound from engine. But while idling after cold start the engine sounds smooth. Do my rtr's tappets need adjustment?

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            Hey buddy,
            Tappet adjustment should be done on a cold engine, buy yourself a feeler gauge there is a beautiful diy on xbhp specially for the rtr have a look at that mate.
            Or take it to svc and tell them to let the bike cool for 1 hr or more then adjust the tappets

            divyansh....

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            • #15681
              Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

              Originally posted by Divyanshp150 View Post
              Without piston ringsthe piston wil
              ! Ove easily as there will be no compression.
              Keep tappets towards the looser side during run in tighten them post 1000km
              Change oil and filter at 500km , 1000km and 2000km then use ax5 for 2 k km interval and after 5 k on the odo shift yo ax7
              Run ins are a little rough on the new engine
              Your mech dosent sound too good... im sorry

              divyansh....
              Okay bro . wil keep these in mind wen a little loose the tappets made a very bad sound ! the mech did not wan to tighten i only made him tighten it ! my bad in this case Too tight of a tappet setting would break the valves right ? am not exceeding 50kmph until i reach 500kms this time . Ill check the tappets during the 1st oil change . Is the motul 3000 any good ?? better than the ax3 ?Thinking of using it during the run-in alone !
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              • #15682
                Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

                Originally posted by Chris2292 View Post
                ...
                Is the motul 3000 any good ?? better than the ax3 ?Thinking of using it during the run-in alone !
                Motul offers you little peace of mind with JASO(MA2) certificates over Shell oils. That said, I not sure which one are good for run-in(engine parts mating).

                Better oil => healthy engine.

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                • #15683
                  Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

                  Originally posted by SparKot View Post
                  Motul offers you little piece of mind with JASO(MA2) certificates over Shell oils. That said, I not sure which one are good for run-in(mating). Better oil - healthy engine.

                  Oils and lubricants Products - Motul
                  For air-cooled engines run-in is best done with mineral oil. After run-in synthetics can be used.

                  Cheers
                  Ride Safe
                  Krishna
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                  • #15684
                    Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

                    Originally posted by Divyanshp150 View Post
                    No no shell advance ax7 4t is 10w40
                    The axz that is 20w70 is for diesel trucks and high torque tractors



                    Hey buddy,
                    Tappet adjustment should be done on a cold engine, buy yourself a feeler gauge there is a beautiful diy on xbhp specially for the rtr have a look at that mate.
                    Or take it to svc and tell them to let the bike cool for 1 hr or more then adjust the tappets

                    divyansh....
                    I have even seen an 25w70 oil and that's too mineral.

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                    • #15685
                      Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

                      Originally posted by Chris2292 View Post
                      Okay bro . wil keep these in mind wen a little loose the tappets made a very bad sound ! the mech did not wan to tighten i only made him tighten it ! my bad in this case Too tight of a tappet setting would break the valves right ? am not exceeding 50kmph until i reach 500kms this time . Ill check the tappets during the 1st oil change . Is the motul 3000 any good ?? better than the ax3 ?Thinking of using it during the run-in alone !
                      Motul 3000 is a phenomenal oil. All the motul oils are, they make very high quality oils and I have asked a dealer he says the profit margin for the company and delarrs is least on motul. I am a motul fan

                      Now loose tappets will make a weird noise say like a sewing machine. But thags ok, loose tappets are what your engine needs till it completes run in, let the svc do this for you, they will charge you 200 bucks. But they will do a good job with a feeler gauge.
                      Remember to change engine oil filter with evey oil change. 40 rs is the cost.
                      Dip the new filter in 100ml enhine oil andnlet it soak it up, then add 1 liter engine oil to the engine.
                      People will say with a new filter add 1100 ml engine oil but sometimes the filter dosent soak up that much and the excessive pressure from the extra oil can make your head cover gaskets etc leak.
                      Cheers

                      divyansh....

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                      • #15686
                        Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

                        Originally posted by ar4vind View Post
                        Folks, is it common that 180s engine make that tappet sound after warming up? I mean, after a 15 min ride even in idle there is more tappet sound from engine. But while idling after cold start the engine sounds smooth. Do my rtr's tappets need adjustment?

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                        Yes. That's true. I have observed that even in the new engines. Even after you adjust the tappets properly, you'll hear mild tappet noise from the engine after some 5km ride. I guess the clearance recommended by TVS is a bit on the higher side.

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                        Originally posted by evyavan View Post
                        He was talking about Shell Advance 4T AX7 which is a 10w40 oil. It is semi synthetic.

                        I personally use Motul 5100 15w50

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                        Can you post some impressions about Motul 5100?

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                        • #15687
                          Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

                          Originally posted by pcgamer View Post
                          Yes. That's true. I have observed that even in the new engines. Even after you adjust the tappets properly, you'll hear mild tappet noise from the engine after some 5km ride. I guess the clearance recommended by TVS is a bit on the higher side.

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                          Can you post some impressions about Motul 5100?
                          Motul has a few good oils
                          3000/3100 (for about 330rs)...
                          5100 (for bout 550 odd bucks)
                          7100 (for about 600 to 750)
                          And 300v is above 800rs.
                          Now, all these oils are awsome in there own right,
                          The difference between 7100 and 300v is very less.
                          Now coming to the topic motul 5100
                          I have used it for about 4000km , oil had tunerd black but engine was veey smooth and engine heat was very less, for summers this is the best oil money can get. Winterms mein you can run 7100 and fs oils, 5100 dosent vaporise easily(unless you are overheating), and the engine looked very clean from the inside (I had opend the clutch side to clean the centrifugal filter for my pulsar), engine oil is pure vfm. But if your clutch plates are a little worn it can cause q little slipaage but not much,
                          Go for it!
                          Best friend in our summers and trafic, it dosent loose its viscosity easily.


                          Ps:- prices are from the dealer I buy oil from, kolkata. Not sure what they are at your place.
                          divyansh....

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                          • #15688
                            Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

                            Originally posted by Divyanshp150 View Post
                            Motul has a few good oils
                            3000/3100 (for about 330rs)...
                            5100 (for bout 550 odd bucks)
                            7100 (for about 600 to 750)
                            And 300v is above 800rs.
                            Now, all these oils are awsome in there own right,
                            The difference between 7100 and 300v is very less.
                            Now coming to the topic motul 5100
                            I have used it for about 4000km , oil had tunerd black but engine was veey smooth and engine heat was very less, for summers this is the best oil money can get. Winterms mein you can run 7100 and fs oils, 5100 dosent vaporise easily(unless you are overheating), and the engine looked very clean from the inside (I had opend the clutch side to clean the centrifugal filter for my pulsar), engine oil is pure vfm. But if your clutch plates are a little worn it can cause q little slipaage but not much,
                            Go for it!
                            Best friend in our summers and trafic, it dosent loose its viscosity easily.


                            Ps:- prices are from the dealer I buy oil from, kolkata. Not sure what they are at your place.
                            divyansh....
                            Thanks for the info. Any idea how it fares in RTR as some owners have reported sluggish performance and clutch slippage with w50 grade oils in the past.

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                            • #15689
                              Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

                              Originally posted by pcgamer View Post
                              Thanks for the info. Any idea how it fares in RTR as some owners have reported sluggish performance and clutch slippage with w50 grade oils in the past.
                              I have used it in a rtr 160 and had a few cluth slippage ehen the oil is new but not much, the rtr is a rev friendly engine, and hence thicker oil will probably make it rev a little less easily. 5100 is also available in 20w40 i think try that!

                              Edit:- 7100 and 3000 is available in 10w40 and 20w40 respectively.
                              No 5100 for you srry mate. For summers motul 3000 20w40 with a drain interval of 2500km is what I will say
                              divyansh....
                              Last edited by Divyanshp150; 05-21-2014, 04:03 PM.

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                              • #15690
                                Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

                                No doubt motul makes very good oils
                                But IMO motul oil and RTR dont do so well together but its only my opnion.
                                I am currently using shell advance ax7, for RTR its a very good, doesnt affect performance but enhances it, makes the engine smooth.
                                Yes it may not keep the engine as cool as the thicker oils but it does control the engine temperature.
                                I mostly ride on highways and very less in city, as per my usage it does justice to the bike.
                                But engine oil depends on an individual and his usage.

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