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  • #8881
    Originally posted by Drifty View Post
    The air flow increases when the bike is in motion making the afr mixture lean,hence the engine begs for more supply of fuel to compensate the more amount of air.What is the stock jet size?I told u before,this jetting and all stuff is a trial and error method.Try the 125 jet size(you may even get the Pulsar main jet and drill it),again tune the carb for proper afr mixture and check by riding the bike(not standstill)redlining the engine in all gears,if you dont feel any 'flat spot' or lag in between,you are there!
    Psr sir,correct me if I am wrong.
    Unless RAM air is used, increase in air flow into air filter is not possible with speed..
    Trying to just fit any Air filter or messing with Jet size is not for the common person to do..
    Setting up a carb is not an easy job especially when you mess with these parts. Using a free flow air filter will reduce the venturi velocity for a given throttle opening throughout the RPM range...Free flow air filter allows more air , and engine will run very lean and likely to burn the valves and cause seizure . So when jet is made bigger, to compensate to achieve ideal mix, at WOT there is every chance of engine getting excessive petrol.....
    Here is a link on different carb parts and how they function...the pic., may not be relevant, but the content is..
    Keihin Carburetor Overview on 4Strokes.com
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    • #8882
      Thanks Drifty and HarishK for the advice, time to go to SVC.
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      • #8883
        Guys a little help over here,my bike is having some hiccups at 2.8k-3k rpm as it is behaving like it is running out of fuel.Bike is 3000kms old
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        • #8884
          guys...some one in the FZ ownership thread has said that a joeled FZ can beat the crap out of a stock RTR(both 160 & 180) but not r15...is it true...please this is not to create or start an argument..just for information thats all.

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          • #8885
            Originally posted by pranav_salieri View Post
            guys...some one in the FZ ownership thread has said that a joeled FZ can beat the crap out of a stock RTR(both 160 & 180) but not r15...is it true...please this is not to create or start an argument..just for information thats all.

            depends on level of joelling brother and i also think tht i would easily beat a 160
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            • #8886
              Originally posted by Drifty View Post
              Apart from the irritating noise,on the high run,the chain will tend to slip,valve timing will change,resulting in loss of performance as well there is a risk with the engine getting seized with the chain getting stuck in between the internals.


              The air flow increases when the bike is in motion making the afr mixture lean,hence the engine begs for more supply of fuel to compensate the more amount of air.What is the stock jet size?I told u before,this jetting and all stuff is a trial and error method.Try the 125 jet size(you may even get the Pulsar main jet and drill it),again tune the carb for proper afr mixture and check by riding the bike(not standstill)redlining the engine in all gears,if you dont feel any 'flat spot' or lag in between,you are there!
              Psr sir,correct me if I am wrong.
              lets see will do so but i have made the hole size to same of a 125 jet but still bike is jerking maybe due to another factor
              STUNTING IS IN MY DNA

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              • #8887
                @Drifty and @psr sir this is the k&n setup on his bike
                STUNTING IS IN MY DNA

                BIG BORE KIT FOR RTR 180
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                • #8888
                  Originally posted by UTKARSH STUNTY SHARMA View Post
                  @Drifty and @psr sir this is the k&n setup on his bike
                  In the bike there will be only one crank breather tube, while there seem to be two in the picture...just find out if the breather oil drain tube is also connected to the inlet, and the tube's other end is open ..this can lead to problems...
                  When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                  • #8889
                    @utkarsh-then why cant it beat a stock r15????? r15 has leser acceleration compared to the rtr160 and 180.

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                    • #8890
                      Originally posted by lijok View Post
                      INR 140 now.
                      Originally posted by abhishekch View Post
                      Rs135 each here in delhi.
                      Thanks Guys.Costed 140 bucks.

                      Originally posted by psr View Post
                      Using a free flow air filter will reduce the venturi velocity for a given throttle opening throughout the RPM range...Free flow air filter allows more air , and engine will run very lean and likely to burn the valves and cause seizure .
                      ..Keihin Carburetor Overview on 4Strokes.com
                      Thanks for the link.Didn't knew the carb float vent routing would be so critical!Please explain the part in bold Sir.

                      Originally posted by vishnups17 View Post
                      Guys a little help over here,my bike is having some hiccups at 2.8k-3k rpm as it is behaving like it is running out of fuel.Bike is 3000kms old
                      Might be the faulty TPS but first check the carb settings ,air cleaner.

                      Originally posted by UTKARSH STUNTY SHARMA View Post
                      @Drifty and @psr sir this is the k&n setup on his bike
                      Remove the breather pipe from the hose pipe as it relieves pressure from the crankcase and emits oil vapours.Your friend dont want this hot gases again entering the engine through the air intake,right?Tie a small piece of foam at the ends of both the pipes for filtration purpose,that should help.

                      Originally posted by psr View Post
                      In the bike there will be only one crank breather tube, while there seem to be two in the picture...just find out if the breather oil drain tube is also connected to the inlet, and the tube's other end is open ..this can lead to problems...
                      Yes,one is the crankcase breather pipe and other one is attached to the air cut off valve or something like that,I forgot the exact name.

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                      • #8891
                        Originally posted by Drifty View Post
                        Thanks for the link.Didn't knew the carb float vent routing would be so critical!Please explain the part in bold Sir.
                        How powerful a suction through the Ventury of the carburetor is determined by the suction at inlet manifold, the amount of throttle valve opening, and the air restriction at the air inlet mouth of carb...If the inlet of carb is fully open to outside air this will drop the air speed, through carb ventury because the abundant availability of air outside will immediately try to neutralize any difference in vacuum occurring in the ventury, and the engine will not be able to rev the same as with an AIR FILTER.
                        This is also the reason why fitting a larger Ventury carb,than recommended will lead to poor low to mid pull ,but good at higher RPM when high flow rate is needed,while a smaller Ventury carb will pull better at low and mid..but will be poor at top end as it cannot flow better at higher speeds .
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                        • #8892
                          Originally posted by vishnups17 View Post
                          Guys a little help over here,my bike is having some hiccups at 2.8k-3k rpm as it is behaving like it is running out of fuel.Bike is 3000kms old
                          Hey even i had this problem for a long time i thought it was the RTR 180's default problem lol.. but then even i asked around here and i was suggested to change TPS or the Throttle kit (cost 95 rs Bangalore) and the problem minimised to a great extent.. then even cleaning the Spark Plug helps a lot!

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                          • #8893
                            AIR filter Apache rtr 180

                            I was wondering is my filter ok? will all filters be this black? i have ridden 8.1k kms.. (Bangalore City only)... Should i get it cleaned or buy a new one instead? What's the cost of a new air filter and for to get it cleaned?

                            chk out the picts below

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                            • #8894
                              Originally posted by pranav_salieri View Post
                              guys...some one in the FZ ownership thread has said that a joeled FZ can beat the crap out of a stock RTR(both 160 & 180) but not r15...is it true...please this is not to create or start an argument..just for information thats all.
                              Those were Joel's words too.that a fully tuned FZ can smoke a RTR180(i believe it was a 180).But even the RTR can be tuned
                              Smoke rubber,not tobacco.

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                              • #8895
                                Originally posted by rak2410 View Post
                                I was wondering is my filter ok? will all filters be this black? i have ridden 8.1k kms.. (Bangalore City only)... Should i get it cleaned or buy a new one instead? What's the cost of a new air filter and for to get it cleaned?

                                chk out the picts below[G]
                                yes the filter is black even when new . really hard to judge how clean it is just by looking . wonder why they cant provide a lighter colored filter new one costs around 150 approx . you can clean it with kerosene and lube with a small packet of 2t oil [rs12only]

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