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  • Originally posted by vid_powerstroke View Post
    co needs a tool to be adjusted ? the amount of co (carbon monoxide) depends on how well ur AFR is... ur fuel burns better= less co%=good engine
    Just for clarification.
    CO is Carbon Monoxide in the exhaust gases. It is directly proportional to AFR.
    AFR is Air Fuel Ratio.
    If AFR > stoic ratio (14.7:1) it is lean.
    If AFR < stoic ratio it is rich.
    Optimum AFR is slightly less than stoic ratio.
    AFR in FI bikes can be adjusted only through diagnostic tool. So CO can be adjusted only through diagnostic tool. Optimum CO reading in the exhaust gas analyzer should be 2-2.5.
    AFR can be adjusted without the CO machine as well. But highly NOT suggested.

    Originally posted by rcmadawala View Post
    GUYS, I AM WAITING FOR YOUR HELP HERE
    Yes Angel Eyes can be fit on any bike. But it is more of a DIY job. It depends from person to person.

    PS- Dont post in Upper Case. It is considered shouting. Kindly wait for others to login and reply.
    Last edited by rahul9985; 12-27-2009, 08:43 PM.
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    • So CO can be adjusted with that FI tool??
      PULSAR 180 DTSI- 2007
      PULSAR 220 DTS-FI - 2008
      PULSAR 220 DTSI - 2011
      SUZUKI GIXXER - 2015

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      • Tday again went to PBK i told that the engine off problem is still there they told to wait me for 1 and half hour later the mechanic went a troll on my bike to check after a ride he told that there is no problem in the bike it is perfectly allright. i shouted at him that there is a problem of engine shutdowning nearly 2-3 times a day so the mech again removed my bikes seat and connected the FI tool to some of the wires & checked the rpm k it is fine. and again checked all the sensors no sensor has damaged i asked him to adjust CO%.He said that the co machine is not all working.since from 5 months that machine is under repair if we ask about the CO machine they will tell that the machine will be fine after a 3 r 4 days as the machine repairing mechanic is delaying to come to PBK.i asked the mechanic to adjust the CO with that FI tool itself the mechanic told that first they have to check that CO in that machine and according to the CO levels which r displayed on that machine they adjust the correct co levels with tht FI tool but the machine is not working and i know it will not work forever.Really got damm irriatated tday.Lated r the mechanic opened d spark plugs & cleaned them and after all this process the mechanic assured me that there will b no Engine shutdown in the feature.I asked him that the CO machine is working in the another PBK which is located in kachiguda he said yes at last i left to home at 2pm i came to PBK at 9:30 in the morning again eve i want to check my bike so i went for a ride again the engine got shutdown.Got veryy angry tought of its waste of explaining my problem again to the TADBUND pbk mechanics.Called the kachiguda PBK and asked about the CO machine they told that their CO machine got repaired & they are advising me to go tadbund PBK & also they are saying that the TADBUND pbk co machine is working fine
        what d _____________ these PBK people are talking

        Guys really got veryy irritated with these_______PBK fellows.
        some of my friends advised me to go tadbund PBK as the kachiguda pbk is worst but the tadbund PBK is worst as kachiguda pbk.
        the kachiguda PBK guys assured me that they will rectify my bikes problem if i come tommorw

        lets c what happens
        PULSAR 180 DTSI- 2007
        PULSAR 220 DTS-FI - 2008
        PULSAR 220 DTSI - 2011
        SUZUKI GIXXER - 2015

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        • @pulsarian : i understand . . .. one request...next time.. pls tiype ur mesg in paragraphs...will help... coz while reading it gives continuity...

          u know what,just 1 advice for u , im not telling ur wrong..

          but kindly revise ur riding skills just once...i used to ride carb'd bikes before i had the 220..

          i used to blip the throttle while downshifting to match engine speed and road speed.... i used to stall every bike i rode..because i always throttle at the odd time... maybe the valves were opening at the wrong time, or i was throttling unnecessarily..even while stopping the bike, i used to shutdown(stall) engine. but i honestly dint know how i used to do it..but the clutch always used to be pressed fully before stopping.

          took me a while to rectify this mistake,, check ur riding style once..it may help..

          at all @ : do u think the throttle body is causing this issue in his(truelypulsarian) bike ? or clogged injectors, or wrongly configured ecu timings and mapping .without studying the bike's behaviour its difficult to tell.

          @rahul9985 : ur in HYD ? maybe in the next meet u can meet up with pulsarian ... find out what wrong if possible..... just saying..
          My BiKe DoEsN't LeAk OiL, iT mArK's ItS TeRriToRy !

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          • hey guys me planning to fix a belly for my 220 please advise
            pros::: if any
            cons if any
            also in mumbai where can i get it done

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            1984 YEZDI 250 CLASSIC My dads SBK
            1987 YEZDI 250 CLII On a Vacation!!!!

            2005 Pulsar 150 UG 2 with ma cousin
            2006 Pulsar 180 UG 3 - For Experimenting
            2007 Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi SOLD
            2010 Pulsar 220 DTS-i - Sold
            2015 PULSAR AS 200 - Sold
            2013 KTM DUKE 390 - Current Ride



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            • @ vid_powerstroke

              U can take a horse to the river, but u cant make it drink water!

              I have given him the pointers. It is upto him to understand them and take further necessary steps.
              Once again:
              1. Get the air filter & throttle body cleaned. Get fuel filter replaced. Make sure air filter is not oiled excessively.
              2. I reckon him filling less quantities of fuel at various fuel stations. So the problem can be clogged fuel lines as well. Worst case Clogged Injectors. Try Iftex System G from Bharat Petroleum or Bardahl Injector Cleaner. Works pretty good.
              3. The problem can also be a tight accelerator cable or loose clutch. Check that as well.
              4. It can also be a faulty roll over sensor. Recently got it confirmed that its not necessary that the bike dont start when roll over sensor fails.
              5. Read the plugs for the overall condition of the combustion chamber.
              6. I have strictly suggested NOT to adjust AFR without the CO machine. Its not a childs play to just fiddle with AFR and come up with the perfect settings on an FI bike. It needs lot of expertise. Its been 6 months and 12k kms since my trials for the right mixture began. Still not got it right.
              7. From what i have come to know from Prabhakar who has spoken to him, the bike is stalling at LOW speeds at HIGHER gear upon blipping the throttle. Its perfectly normal as at such low speeds the bike will stall. Thats why in one of my previous posts i said downshift and ride at lower gears at low speeds.
              8. Its an ECU. The timings & maps dont change by itself. Worst case faulty ECU. Yes, the bike at times works with a faulty ECU and also the ECU gets recognized by the Diagnostic tool.
              Last edited by rahul9985; 12-29-2009, 12:01 AM.
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              • I Rode Trulypulsarian's bike for a couple of km with him as Pillion.
                Tried out 5th gear with him as pillion at speeds of 16kmph.
                The Bike did not stall.
                It was picking even from that speed.
                The Fuel filter was absolutely dirty.
                Asked him to replace it.
                Apart from that I did not see any problem.
                CO settings are required when UR bike runs lean or rich.
                His Bike is not Lean.
                Its rich - not very rich.
                Adjusting AFR without the CO machine requires atleast a Dozen trials & lot of patience.
                There is no problem with the sensors or ECU.
                Accelerator & Clutch cables are fine.
                I did not read the plugs.
                The bike may be getting stalled when he is blipping the throttle in higher gears at lower Speeds.
                Apart from that I don't find any issue with the bike.
                Bike felt normal - however on the rougher side.

                There can be a Problem But I did not notice any!!
                Last edited by Prabhakar; 12-29-2009, 12:34 AM.
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                • Originally posted by rahul9985 View Post
                  @ vid_powerstroke

                  U can take a horse to the river, but u cant make it drink water!

                  I have given him the pointers. It is upto him to understand them and take further necessary steps.
                  Once again:
                  1. Get the air filter & throttle body cleaned. Get fuel filter replaced. Make sure air filter is not oiled excessively.
                  2. I reckon him filling less quantities of fuel at various fuel stations. So the problem can be clogged fuel lines as well. Worst case Clogged Injectors. Try Iftex System G from Bharat Petroleum or Bardahl Injector Cleaner. Works pretty good.
                  3. The problem can also be a tight accelerator cable or loose clutch. Check that as well.
                  4. It can also be a faulty roll over sensor. Recently got it confirmed that its not necessary that the bike dont start when roll over sensor fails.
                  5. Read the plugs for the overall condition of the combustion chamber.
                  6. I have strictly suggested NOT to adjust AFR without the CO machine. Its not a childs play to just fiddle with AFR and come up with the perfect settings on an FI bike. It needs lot of expertise. Its been 6 months and 12k kms since my trials for the right mixture began. Still not got it right.
                  7. From what i have come to know from Prabhakar who has spoken to him, the bike is stalling at LOW speeds at HIGHER gear upon blipping the throttle. Its perfectly normal as at such low speeds the bike will stall. Thats why in one of my previous posts i said downshift and ride at lower gears at low speeds.
                  8. Its an ECU. The timings & maps dont change by itself. Worst case faulty ECU. Yes, the bike at times works with a faulty ECU and also the ECU gets recognized by the Diagnostic tool.
                  I had changed the fuel filter & also i had forced PBK guys to check weather any sensor is damaged they checked all the sensors with the FI tool & adjusted the rpm

                  Yesterday i told to clean throttle body they are saying that no need to do all those by cleaning the spark plugs the problem will be diminished i forced them to clean the throttle body but thier ans is no need.
                  from the past MANY days iam using speed from BP

                  i had mentioned in the above posts that i had changed my fuel filter
                  once see my previous posts for ur clarification.

                  i also asked them to clean the airfilter to all questions their simple________ans is no need sirrrrrr we understood ur bikes problem & we know what to do.

                  yesterday i forced them a lotttt and i also quarreled with the mechanic but no useeee. so what can i do if they dont do what i said.
                  how many times should i tell if they dont even care my words

                  is that my problem????? any way today going to kachiguda PBK yesterday their cheif mechanic promised me that they will solve my bikes problem

                  finally 1 word to say that the tadbund PBK is as worst as kachiguda PBK.
                  Last edited by truelypulsarian; 12-29-2009, 08:36 AM.
                  PULSAR 180 DTSI- 2007
                  PULSAR 220 DTS-FI - 2008
                  PULSAR 220 DTSI - 2011
                  SUZUKI GIXXER - 2015

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                  • Originally posted by hypergamer View Post
                    hey guys me planning to fix a belly for my 220 please advise
                    pros::: if any
                    cons if any
                    also in mumbai where can i get it done

                    xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community - torque24's Album: more of the bike - Picture

                    wanna do something like this really liked it!!!!!!!1
                    Not a recommended MOD.
                    The Engine will not get sufficient air to cool itself.
                    UR engine always gets hotter quickly, Runs hotter than normal & stays hotter normally.
                    The 220's engine already has some problems creeping due to overheating.
                    Now this MOD will make it even worse.
                    The Engine will get reliability issues due to this.
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                    • Originally posted by truelypulsarian View Post
                      Tday again went to PBK i told that the engine off problem is still there they told to wait me for 1 and half hour later the mechanic went a troll on my bike to check after a ride he told that there is no problem in the bike it is perfectly allright. i shouted at him that there is a problem of engine shutdowning nearly 2-3 times a day so the mech again removed my bikes seat and connected the FI tool to some of the wires & checked the rpm k it is fine. and again checked all the sensors no sensor has damaged i asked him to adjust CO%.He said that the co machine is not all working.since from 5 months that machine is under repair if we ask about the CO machine they will tell that the machine will be fine after a 3 r 4 days as the machine repairing mechanic is delaying to come to PBK.i asked the mechanic to adjust the CO with that FI tool itself the mechanic told that first they have to check that CO in that machine and according to the CO levels which r displayed on that machine they adjust the correct co levels with tht FI tool but the machine is not working and i know it will not work forever.Really got damm irriatated tday.Lated r the mechanic opened d spark plugs & cleaned them and after all this process the mechanic assured me that there will b no Engine shutdown in the feature.I asked him that the CO machine is working in the another PBK which is located in kachiguda he said yes at last i left to home at 2pm i came to PBK at 9:30 in the morning again eve i want to check my bike so i went for a ride again the engine got shutdown.Got veryy angry tought of its waste of explaining my problem again to the TADBUND pbk mechanics.Called the kachiguda PBK and asked about the CO machine they told that their CO machine got repaired & they are advising me to go tadbund PBK & also they are saying that the TADBUND pbk co machine is working fine
                      what d _____________ these PBK people are talking

                      Guys really got veryy irritated with these_______PBK fellows.
                      some of my friends advised me to go tadbund PBK as the kachiguda pbk is worst but the tadbund PBK is worst as kachiguda pbk.
                      the kachiguda PBK guys assured me that they will rectify my bikes problem if i come tommorw

                      lets c what happens
                      after getting my relay set and front shock changed under warranty... all i can tell you is keep telling them the problem again n again..one day they will solve it...it took 8 months in my case...

                      and what i learned is...never irritate yourself ...rather annoy them...even i got stuck in the middle of nowwhere coze of relay set...
                      BUt then i learned to remain Calm ..Damn it.. lol
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                      • Originally posted by hypergamer View Post
                        hey guys me planning to fix a belly for my 220 please advise
                        pros::: if any
                        cons if any
                        also in mumbai where can i get it done

                        xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community - torque24's Album: more of the bike - Picture

                        wanna do something like this really liked it!!!!!!!1



                        Try something like this...its a ZMA's engine scoooooop.. the blue spark plug is a spit fire cable i guess.... if anybody were to ask about it..
                        Last edited by vid_powerstroke; 12-29-2009, 11:43 PM.
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                        • @ pulsarian. : dude, to do simple cleaning job, u need not head to pbk always... u havent registered a deal with them stating u would always go to them... go outside to ur regular mech...a trusted one..open up ur throttle body or detach and get it cleaned...PBK guys think u know nothing... well, get it done outside.. let us know how it goes....
                          My BiKe DoEsN't LeAk OiL, iT mArK's ItS TeRriToRy !

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                          • Updates of kachiguda PBK

                            They just removed the airfilter and spark plugs & cleaned them.
                            & 1 strange thing iam not understanding the mechanic tighted some screws which were below the tank by removing the tank.I aksed why is it necessary to tight those screws??. He replied that i felt they are loose so tightened. And he told that there is no problem in the bike it is in very good condition.Guys some of the mechanics dont even know what is co machine any way lets c how my bike performs Now
                            @Monty007

                            8 months what happened to ur bikes front shock???

                            @Vid_powerstroke

                            Bro lets see from tday weather again the engine shutdown condition continues or stop

                            from tday changed my driving style also.

                            Hope every thing will be fine from tday
                            Last edited by truelypulsarian; 12-29-2009, 02:03 PM.
                            PULSAR 180 DTSI- 2007
                            PULSAR 220 DTS-FI - 2008
                            PULSAR 220 DTSI - 2011
                            SUZUKI GIXXER - 2015

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                            • Originally posted by vid_powerstroke View Post



                              Try something like this...its a ZMA's engine scoooooop.. the blue spark plug is a spit fire cable i guess.... if anybody were to ask about it..

                              Cannot see the pic !!!!!!!!


                              1984 YEZDI 250 CLASSIC My dads SBK
                              1987 YEZDI 250 CLII On a Vacation!!!!

                              2005 Pulsar 150 UG 2 with ma cousin
                              2006 Pulsar 180 UG 3 - For Experimenting
                              2007 Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi SOLD
                              2010 Pulsar 220 DTS-i - Sold
                              2015 PULSAR AS 200 - Sold
                              2013 KTM DUKE 390 - Current Ride



                              Whats next Probably An Inline 4.


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                              • Hi Guys,

                                Its been a while since my bike is having issues with the top speed. Earlier I felt that as I had a looong ride of about 5500 kms to rajasthan this might be happening. I recently spent Rs 9000/- on the servicing and did the following repairs at sai service lower parel:
                                1) Clutch plate and pressure plate replaced
                                2) Chain sprocket replaced
                                3) Aligned forks and changed the oil
                                4) Changed the complete starter body
                                5) Changed the front as well as the rear disk plates and pads
                                6) Changed the cone set
                                7) Got the CO setting done
                                8) Fuel filter replaced
                                9) Tank cleaned
                                10) forks overhaulled and aligned
                                11) serviced

                                Ok the above parts were replaced because they were worn out, and now the bike is completely as good as new though it has done 48000 kms in 2 years. I have also got it completely repainted a couple of months back.

                                Overall I have done everything possibile but still the bike refuses to go above 125 and I am just 54 kgs. Also got the block piston verified and the probiking engg said its perfect please help me am going nuts what to do!!!!!!!!

                                Also today my bike did reach 125 but that too without pillion and while on a slope. Also above 4k rpm the bike does perform but it feels like something is holding the engine from revving freely.

                                Plus last week when i went to sai service borivali for CO setting all of a sudden all the oil from the engine drained in like ten seconds. when I asked the mech he said I dont know what happened and he refilled the oil and till now no leakage. but am seriously worried please help!!!!!!
                                Last edited by hypergamer; 12-29-2009, 04:04 PM.


                                1984 YEZDI 250 CLASSIC My dads SBK
                                1987 YEZDI 250 CLII On a Vacation!!!!

                                2005 Pulsar 150 UG 2 with ma cousin
                                2006 Pulsar 180 UG 3 - For Experimenting
                                2007 Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi SOLD
                                2010 Pulsar 220 DTS-i - Sold
                                2015 PULSAR AS 200 - Sold
                                2013 KTM DUKE 390 - Current Ride



                                Whats next Probably An Inline 4.


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